The 2013 VW Jetta Hybrid
I am at training this week for the new VW Jetta hybrid. Since the car is not actually release yet. I need to be kind of careful about the information I post. That will be really easy because we don’t have much information about the car yet. Well, it is there, but all in German. HA
What is a Hybrid
I know that everyone has heard the term “Hybrid Car”. There are a
couple of car companies that have been making hybrid cars for years now. But what is a hybrid. The easiest way to understand it is, a car with a gas engine AND an electric motor. There are several different hybrid setups. The way they work all depends on the car.
VW uses a gas engine mated to an electric motor. The motor lives between the engine and the transmission. That motor is called the EMachine. The Jetta can run off the gas engine, it can run off the EMachine, and it can run off BOTH! The EMachine gives the Jetta an extra 20HP(approximately)
Driving modes
Like I said, the Jetta can run in 3 different modes. The mode all depends on what the driver wants, and what the car needs.
- Gas Engine
The Jetta can run solely off the 1.4l TSI engine. It is a small 4
This is the replacement for the tachometer. It will show what mode you are in. I really like this gauge.
cylinder turbo charged gas engine. It will run off the gas engine when the battery needs to be charged, and when the driver demands heavy acceleration.
- EMachine
The EMachine is what makes the Jetta a hybrid. In certain driving conditions, the car can run off the EMachine, and function like an electric car. There is also an “Emode” that the driver can select. This will tell the car to use the EMachine as much as possible - Boost Mode
This is when both the gas engine and the EMachine are powering the car. This only happens at full throttle, and only for ~8 seconds. That is basically full power AKA fun mode.
Driving the Jetta Hybrid
I have to be very honest. I am not a huge fan of hybrids. I think the technology is amazing. But I have not really enjoyed the drive. To be fair, I have not driven every hybrid out there. The few I have driven were we boring.
The Jetta drive exactly like a Jetta. Big surprise right. The power the car has is great. The 1.4TSI is a slightly tamer version of the 2.0TSI. The gas engine accounts for 150hp of the 170hp the car is rated for.
The transmission is a 7 speed DSG. I think this transmission feels great. The shifts are fast and smooth. It doesn’t have that weird lag when you take off from a stop like the older DSG does. It really feels like a normal automatic transmission. This is one spot the hybrid blows the TDI out of the water.(did I just say that yikes)
If you have never driven a hybrid there is a little learning curve. The brakes on this car are strange.
The best way I can describe them is VERY touchy. The EMachine will actually slow the car down. This is how it charges the big battery in the trunk. The feeling is a little strange at first, but something you get use to very quickly.
Hybrid Safety
This is the power converter under the hood. Notice the big orange cables
As you might expect, VW does not play around with safety. The high volt system in this car is 220v and more than enough amps to kill someone faster than you can blink. There are several procedures for De-energizing the HV system. The HV system is indicated by BIG ORANGE cables. The rule is “DON’T TOUCH THE ORANGE”.
The system must be de-energized by a certified HVT or High Voltage Technician. Our VW scan tool There is also safety built in for non-technicians. On top of big bright cable, ALL hybrids are must be marked “HYBRID” on all four sides of the car. This way a first responder will know it has a HV system. not only that, the cables are ran on the floor of the car. If a first responder needs to extract someone, they can cut the roof worry free.
All in all I think this will be a good car for us. It will be a good alternative to the TDI. I think that is will be a different driving experience for VW drivers. This car makes weird noises from the engine transmission area. It will also do what it needs to do to keep the battery charged, and the car running properly. I feel like I will be telling customers,
I am not sure why it does that, or when it does that. The car will do what it has to do. You might lose your mind trying to figure is out. If the car has an issue, you will know it. 😉
When the car comes out, and more information is available, I will post more about it. I will also find some videos to share that explain how hybrids work. To really understand it, you need to see it in action.
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- This is the replacement for the tachometer. It will show what mode you are in. I really like this gauge.
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- This is the 1.4TSI in the Jetta. 150hp oh, and it has 3 water pumps
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- This is the display on the radio. This shows the running off the electric motor only
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- Notice the cool blue outline of the badges
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- This is the power converter under the hood. Notice the big orange cables
So what do you guys think? Is bringing a hybrid a good move for VW, or a slap in the face to their diesel history? Sound off in the comments, I really want to know what you think.
I also have one more thing to ask. If you are on the email list, have you been getting email updates? I didn’t get mine the other day. If you did or didn’t will you please let me know. I have been thinking about changing my email service and this will make my decision much easier.
I can’t wait to hear more about this hybrid.
Check this video out, worlds fastest hybrid (VW Jetta)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VL3yLf6CF2E&list=PL8F0981B98726601A&index=1&feature=plcp
This is an awesome video, thanks for sharing Jeremy
The emac home has a spring in it and when that is broken by an impact it costs $7,600 to replace plus the $3,300 for the transmission and add $3,000 in labor $13,900 for the repair so is it worth it??? You feeling lucky?
Hmmm I think i would stick with a tdi myself, but I don’t see why the Jetta hybrid wouldn’t be a decent seller. My Beetle isn’t a tdi only because I couldn’t afford it…..damn!..Great input though dude!
I am not really sure why they are head this direction . I feel they should do the diesel and do it well. Make a Tiguan ,CC in diesel bring back the van in diesel they are all over Mexico
Just my 2cents
I heard that it was because of Cali emissions. Plus other hybrids are selling well.
I am a big fan of the TDI. I think this might fill a need for customers that want great mpg, but don’t drive enough to warrant a TDI. Or most of their driving is city. I just hope that the release is perfect.
I think that even though the TDI is a great engine, this is a good move. There is still a stigma with some people about diesel cars. Plus there is the fact that hybrids get so much press about getting great fuel economy.
What would be really nice to see is a diesel hybrid. The best of both worlds.
Although I haven’t driven a hybrid, they seem to me to be boring automotive appliances, not fun to drive cars. At least this one seems to change that.
I’m really curious as to how this car sounds, when stopped, when accelerating, and at red line. VW has said that it isn’t supposed to sound or fell like a “normal hybrid”.
> The system must be de-energized by a certified
> HVT or High Voltage Technician.
I was at the Automechanika in Frankfurt Germany last week. At VW’s own exhibit, they were demonstrating the crazy, CYA de-energizing procedure using ODIS on a Touareg Hybrid. Before measuring any voltages on the car, it requires testing the high voltage probes and such, and recording all the values.
They act like these systems run at thousands of volts, not a few hundred. Sorry, but a few hundred volts is not “High Voltage”. Treat them with respect anyway? Yes, but if they think technicians in the real world will actually follow that procedure instead of just pulling the bloody disconnect and getting their work done, I think they’re kidding themselves.
The disconnect service is due diligence
If you don’t follow the required steps they are not liable
If something happens to you or the car
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It is now April 2020, what do you think of the hybrid now? I was looking at a 2013 last week and the seller knew NOTHING about the car. I had along chat with my local VW dealer service manager, he had a slow day going and is a very helpful guy in general. In the end a asked him if he would buy one for his wife or daughter as daily driver. He said no, buy a TDI. I was and am still very attracted to it though. Do you think they have worked out the problems yet? Ray
Hi Ray, I don’t know if you ever followed through on your Hybrid, but I have a 2013 VW Hybrid SEL Premium. I’ve got almost 140k miles on it, and it is still going strong. Only MAJOR issue I had was the transmission. They replaced the mechatronic unit. Then they clutch pads failed. They ended up replacing the entire transmission. It was $6k to replace, but VW covered it even after I was past my warranty. I only had to pay for a few hours labor. I have to admit VW did me right on the transmission, oh well as the AC unit when it died, they helped cover the cost.
What noses if any were you hearing what were the signs you needed a new transmission I just bought a 2013 Jetta hybrid and it cost 8000 from the dealership and I’ve already put $4000 in repairs into it but it’s still having problems. I think it needs a new transmission but I’m not sure what’s wrong with it
I just recently bought one of these 2013 hybrids it ran fine for the first two days, then started chugging in first and second gear I took it into a mechanic he replaced my radiator engine cover and put a new tires but the chugging was still there then I took it to the Volkswagen dealership they replaced a part of my transmission put in a new software update and put in new airbags I got the car back two days ago and it’s running worse than before it also now dies right after I turn off the car does anyone know anything?